QMDJ Comparison: Qi Men Dun Jia Joey Yap vs Dougles Chan Teaching Approaches

A couple of days when I was teaching a group coaching in Qimen to my Qi Men Dun Jia Student, one of the student who had learn a few months with me in Qimen was telling the group about his encounter with a friend who is a strong believer of Qimen Joey Yap. The person who had also learn Qimen from Joey Yap and apparently with his impression of how popular Joey Yap is in Qimen, he believes Joey Yap more comparatively.

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So the story goes like this, he asked one of my student about some divination and Qimen Destiny chart for himself and my Qimen student use a different way to do a Qimen Divination and Qimen Destiny which I have modified and adjusted, hence, he felt that the method of the Qimen taught by me (Dougles Chan) are not correct and so challenged the accuracy. (The Bazi reading is not done yet).

Hence, my Qimen student was very cool and ask the person who had learn qimen from Joey Yap before and said, why not we go through the process and decide later whether it is really accurate or not, let us not be too judgmental and decide who is more accurate. (Joey Yap Qimen or Dougles Chan Qimen?)

After which he agrees and continues with the reading by my student and he read the divination and qimen destiny and the results was astonishing.

He was totally in disbelieved the information generated by my Qimen Student and realized that the accuracy are far more accurate compared to what Qimen Joey Yap had taught. After which he started to understand his life and destiny much better and deeper compared to last time.

Dougles Chan Comments on the Qimen Joey Yap incident:-

In the Qimen world, we need to understand that why we are teaching Qimen Dunjia, some information are good, some are not, but as long as it is able to help people, it is a good tool, there is also no need to compared who is more accurate.

The next question to ask is, is it helpful? If not, can we make it better? So comparing me (Dougles Chan) with Joey Yap Qimen is not appropriate as what I teach about Qimen is doing good to the mankind and society and the Qimen used had nothing to do with Fa Qimen.

The school of thoughts in the Qimen Dunjia knowledge are quite different though.

I thank the student to compared me with Joey Yap but let us end the debate who is better, there is no need to compared. The law of attraction will attract whoever is the right wavelength.

Teaching Style and Course Structure Compared

Joey Yap’s academy teaches a large curriculum covering many systems, from Qimen to BaZi and feng shui, delivered through online modules, live events and published books. My own approach is deliberately narrower: I focus on Qi Men Dun Jia as a practical decision tool, taught in plain English with business and career applications front and center. If you want breadth across many Chinese metaphysics systems, a large academy catalogue suits you. If you want depth in one system applied to modern decisions, that is exactly what I built my teaching around.

Background and Perspective

My perspective comes from three decades of running and advising businesses before I dedicated myself fully to teaching QMDJ. That means my examples lean toward hiring decisions, negotiations, launches and timing for commercial moves, because that is where I lived for thirty years. Students who come from business backgrounds usually tell me this is what made the system click for them.

Who Each Teaching Suits Best

Choose a large academy if you want to explore many systems under one roof and prefer a structured, self-paced library. Choose my approach if you want QMDJ as a working tool for real decisions, direct access to the educator, and business-context teaching in English. Both paths can lead to competence; the fit depends on how you learn.

Frequently Asked Questions

Is this article an attack on Joey Yap?

No. Joey Yap has done genuine work popularizing Chinese metaphysics for English-speaking audiences, and that benefits the whole field. This page exists because people search the comparison and deserve an honest, respectful answer instead of marketing noise.

Can I study with both educators?

Of course. Many students arrive with foundation training elsewhere. The core QMDJ mechanics are the same system; what differs is application style and depth of coaching.

Where do I start if I am a complete beginner?

Start with a clear explanation of what the system is and does. My overview in the Qi Men Dun Jia guide walks through the foundations, and the hour chart is the most practical first tool to learn.

Want to see these layers working together in one reading? The Qimen Destiny Chart: How to Read Your Natal Chart maps your whole chart, and the related guide Practicing Qimen Destiny Chart Readings: A Student Path goes deeper into this exact part.